Touissaint

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Are you guys ready to eat your crow about Touissaint? The guy is a stud at RB.

4 Games
319 yards
5 Touchdowns.

He is on pace for 1,000+ yards and 16 touchdowns running behind a trash O-Line. Can't believe some of you didn't think he was a starting caliber RB.

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Subject: Re: Touissaint Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:37 pm

319 yards against trash defense's , doesn't always run hard through the hole and is late gettin to the hole.

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hailtoyourvictor wrote:: Are you guys ready to eat your crow about Touissaint? The guy is a stud at RB.

4 Games
319 yards
5 Touchdowns.

He is on pace for 1,000+ yards and 16 touchdowns running behind a trash O-Line. Can't believe some of you didn't think he was a starting caliber RB.

I was very happy to see him do well at such a critical time. The scapegoating of him has been sad to see.

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Subject: Re: Touissaint Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:39 pm

I'm still a little on the fence.

I know he got 120 but he got about 60 of that in the last 3 series it seemed.

Now, it's not fair to pick and choose this run or that run so you are correct. He got 120 pretty tough yards tonight.

Still not very happy with the running game. Way way way too much Devin. No one behind Fitz. We've got a ways to go.

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He is on pace for 1,000+ yards as 16+ touchdowns begin a bad offensive line and you still find ways to piss and moan. You are a middle school girl.

Or do you think the offensive line is playing good?

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His block was critical in springing Devin for our first touchdown too.

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Subject: I believe this Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:42 pm

wshoes wrote:: His block was critical in springing Devin for our first touchdown too.

'shoes

Is what puts him ay ahead of the other guys.

WTF ever happened to Rawls? He fell off the face of the earth.

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Subject: Re: Touissaint Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:21 am

BTW, his 2 TD runs alone were 35 and 12 yards. That's 47 of his yards in 2 carries. Again, it's just not fair to nit-pick but I feel we'd be doing ourselves a dis-service if we believed our running game was alive and well.

What difference does it make who's fault it is?

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Subject: Re: Touissaint Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:32 am

IIRC Rawls screed up and he is in the dog-house. I could be wrong though.

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Subject: Re: Touissaint Sun Sep 22, 2013 2:43 am

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1780230-michigan-football-why-derrick-green-is-the-wolverines-next-great-rb

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Subject: Re: Touissaint Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:15 am

Toussaint had a decent second half.

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Joe, you can do that for every running back in the nation. Take out two of his biggest carries and then say "without these two carries he only had blah blah blah." James White had a long of 70 today. Take that out and his YPC isn't impressive. But newsflash, that run counts. Those runs counted for A-train, they counted for Mike Hart, and they counted for Fitz.

Seriously, go try it. Go take out a running backs two longest runs and them check out his YPC. You do it for Fitz as if to say he wasn't effective... So now do it for other runners.

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Fitz is on pace for 1,000+ yards and 16+ touchdowns.

You know how many Michigan running backs have scored 16 or more touchdowns in a single season since 1970?

Two.

You guys are a joke when it comes to this issue. Touissaint is easily the most underrated player on this team.

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Subject: Re: Touissaint Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:30 am

Great 2nd half by him. The team needed it.

Subject: Let me ask you Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:09 am

hailtoyourvictor wrote:: Joe, you can do that for every running back in the nation. Take out two of his biggest carries and then say "without these two carries he only had blah blah blah." James White had a long of 70 today. Take that out and his YPC isn't impressive. But newsflash, that run counts. Those runs counted for A-train, they counted for Mike Hart, and they counted for Fitz.

Seriously, go try it. Go take out a running backs two longest runs and them check out his YPC. You do it for Fitz as if to say he wasn't effective... So now do it for other runners.

Would you rather have runs of 6, 6, 6, 6, 6 for a total of 30 yards or

-5, -5, 0, 0, 40 for a total of 30 yards?

If you read my post I prefaced it by saying you couldn't do what I said.

Let me go deeper. One of my favorite players in baseball, Ryne Sandberg was a great player, when it really didn't matter. He'd hit home runs in 11-0 games. But put him up in the clutch and he'd choke.

It's a little different but to me when and how he got the yards are even MORE important than how many he got.

Look at Drew Dileo. He ain't gonna have the most receiving yards at Michigan but look at how many big plays he's made in 4 years.

To me it's when and how just as much as how many.

With that said, Fitz got the yards WHEN WE NEEDED THEM!

Please understand, I am not one of the people complaining about Fitz. I like Fitz. Hell, I LOVE Fitz. I don't think it's all his fault. I'm just trying to be fair and honest and type what I see.

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joe wrote:

hailtoyourvictor wrote:: Joe, you can do that for every running back in the nation. Take out two of his biggest carries and then say "without these two carries he only had blah blah blah." James White had a long of 70 today. Take that out and his YPC isn't impressive. But newsflash, that run counts. Those runs counted for A-train, they counted for Mike Hart, and they counted for Fitz.

Seriously, go try it. Go take out a running backs two longest runs and them check out his YPC. You do it for Fitz as if to say he wasn't effective... So now do it for other runners.

Would you rather have runs of 6, 6, 6, 6, 6 for a total of 30 yards or

-5, -5, 0, 0, 40 for a total of 30 yards?

If you read my post I prefaced it by saying you couldn't do what I said.

Let me go deeper. One of my favorite players in baseball, Ryne Sandberg was a great player, when it really didn't matter. He'd hit home runs in 11-0 games. But put him up in the clutch and he'd choke.

It's a little different but to me when and how he got the yards are even MORE important than how many he got.

Look at Drew Dileo. He ain't gonna have the most receiving yards at Michigan but look at how many big plays he's made in 4 years.

To me it's when and how just as much as how many.

With that said, Fitz got the yards WHEN WE NEEDED THEM!

Please understand, I am not one of the people complaining about Fitz. I like Fitz. Hell, I LOVE Fitz. I don't think it's all his fault. I'm just trying to be fair and honest and type what I see.

So is making up numbers something you do for fun? My point was that all runningbacks have negative and zero yard rushes. It isn't just Touissaint. They all have big plays that contribute to their yardage totals, but you can't just take those out. I asked you to go check out other runningbacks and their game logs, but obviously you didn't. Instead you just throw out random numbers to try and justify your fallacy.

Since you made up numbers, I figured I'd show you the actual numbers. Keep in mind this is rushing behind an offensive line that has been less than impressive.

1st Quarter:
rush for 2 yards
rush for 7 yards
reception for 7 yards
rush for 3 yards
rush for -1 yard
rush for -2 yards

Second Quarter:
rush for 7 yards
rush for 4 yards
rush for 5 yards
rush for 2 yards
rush for 10 yards

3rd Quarter:
rush for 7 yards
rush for 2 yards
rush for -5 yards
reception for no gain
rush for 4 yards
rush for -1 yard
rush for 7 yards
rush for 35 yards and a touchdown
rush for no gain

4th Quarter:
rush for no gain
rush for 12 yards and a touchdown
rush for 14 yards
rush for 6 yards
rush for 3 yards

How you can sit there and pretend he had Barry Sanders-like skewed stats is beyond me. He played a great came and people are still on here pretending like he didn't. I don't get it.

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