Belien or Izzo

coming down the stretch, and into B1G tourney. Michigan is 6-1 and MSU is 6-1 the only diff is Michigan has lost 6 of 7 and MSU has won 6 of 7. MSU is looking at going to the NCAA and Michigan is looking at the NIT. Sure Michigan has suffered attrition only having 1 guy on the floor from last year, but it getting late in the year and the guys have been together for 6 games, The chances of winning in Maryland where even very good teams go to die, is slim. NW is really improving now. so in reality looks like Rutgers could be the only win before the B1G tourney starts. will the boys so heart or are they just going to fold. That will be Belien challenge, Izzo has to play Purdue, Wisky and IU. before the tourney where they likely will be a top 4 seed. Lets see who finishes stronger,

They've shown heart all year, why would I expect anything different? I do agree that it will be tough to win either of the next 2. Northwestern is a different team. They really do have some talent. Not sure how they started 1-10 in conference. I do recall they lost in OT at Breslin.

Hail remember earlier you were talkin about 9-9 conference teams , not making it to the NCAA tourney, well we might see about that IU, has the reality of finishing 9-9 with a lost to MSU and Iowa it could happen, then we would see if they get into the NCAA after last nights lost to NW, that might have crushed their dreams.

Why do you troll so hard? Why do you lie about things?

I never said 9-9 teams were NCAAT locks. I said teams that go 11-7 in the Big Ten are locks. 9-9 is usually around the bubble, 10-8 is usually in.


Remember when you said that Michigan would not win over 7 conference games?? That was before we lost our best two players, too. Michigan would be at like 10 Big Ten wins right now if they had LeVert and Walton all season. You are a clueless.

Also, comparing Beilein to Izzo this season in an absolute joke. One coach lost his best player and is relying on freshmen and walk-ons. The other coach has a veteran laden team.

Think about this for a second:
Total career minutes of Michigan's current available players coming into this season: 1,203 minutes.
Total career minutes of Brandon Dawson coming into this season: 3,141 minutes.
Travis Trice.... 1,855 minutes.
Denzel Valentine.... 1,865 minutes.
Bryn Forbes.... 2,007 minutes.


Michigan St. has 4 individual players with more experience than Michigan's entire team combined. Can you imagine if Beilein had his players stick around 3 and 4 years? Burke, Stauskas, McGary, Robinson.......... those guys would all still be eligible.


That being said, Izzo is an elite coach and one of the best of all time. There is no shame in being an inferior coach to Tom Izzo.

Michigan St. just lost at home, to Minnesota with a team without any injuries and full of upper classmen. Tell us how that is more impressive than beating Ohio St. with 5 freshmen and only 8 total scholarship players..........

Don't feed it, Hail. Stupid is as stupid does.

dwoody wrote:

Don't feed it, Hail. Stupid is as stupid does.

Yes and we seen that from your post for a long time , when you going to add something to the conversation, instead of just trolling from the outside.

hailtoyourvictor wrote:

Michigan St. just lost at home, to Minnesota with a team without any injuries and full of upper classmen. Tell us how that is more impressive than beating Ohio St. with 5 freshmen and only 8 total scholarship players..........

They lost to Minny because Izzo wouldn't foul in the closing seconds of the game . MSU starts a FR a Soph and jr and a sr , so I wouldn't say that they are full od upperclass man.

The three leading players on Michigan State are Dawson, Valentine, and Trice. Schilling might be next. Part they all upper classman?

wshoes wrote:

The three leading players on Michigan State are Dawson, Valentine, and Trice. Schilling might be next. Part they all upper classman?

Actually under that instance since Trice is off the bench I would say Costello is next, Schilling is a hack a thon .. But as starters. its Naim (FR) Dawson (SR) Valentine (JR) Schilling (SOPH) Forbes (FR)

Check minutes played- Trice is second I think.

And Forbes a junior.

How good would Msu be if they lost Dawson and Valentine for the season? Imagine if Michigan had LeVert and Walton while Msu had to play without Dawson and Valentine. That's what Beilein has had to deal with.

Michigan has 5 unavailable scholarship players. 5 of the remaining 8 scholarships players are freshmen. The other 3 have less than 1,300 combine career minutes before this season.